If You Feel Strongly STEEM Needs Something, You're Probably The One To Do It

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BAT Takes The Lead—For A Bit

So, this happened late Saturday night (April 20, 2019, PDT). I'm sure this isn't the first time that the Basic Attention Token (BAT) has overtaken STEEM in price, but this is the first time since early February of this year when I acquired some BAT through learning about them on Coinbase.


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At the time I earned/received them, BAT was trading between $0.110 USD and $0.115 USD. At over $0.47 Saturday night, it briefly quadrupled that initial dollar price.

Good For BAT

I suppose so. At present, STEEM and BAT are both neck and neck trading here:


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As far as Coinbase goes, the advantage is still to BAT. It has a higher market cap at a little over $500 million, and it's one of 12 tokens Coinbase currently lists as available for sale/trade.

Thanks For Rubbing It In

Seriously, I'm not trying to do that. What I am trying to do is point out the fact that while STEEM has increased roughly 50-55% off it's February lows, BAT has hit 350%-400%. Why? It's not earth shattering change, but BAT seems to be showing a decent amount of interest, while STEEM is at least lagging behind.

What does BAT have that makes it valued similarly to STEEM? Is it better press? Better founding pedigree or history? Better token distribution? Better marketing? Greater utility? The fact it's based on Ethereum, an older blockchain?

Ease Of Use

I've tried to use BAT, but for me so far, the use has been pretty limited. I have some other BAT sitting in the Brave browser wallet that's intended to pay publishers who accept BAT. Accept, I've yet to run across any who are authorized to receive BAT. I am now aware that there is a pretty big list of publishers and just need to take the time to go through it.

I know I could be in the minority with this experience because there are others here who have been doing more with BAT. I just find it confusing to figure out, which is annoying, since I feel like I've spent most of my life figuring out things a lot of people can't. Now, in this instance, I'm one of the folks technology is leaving behind.

The Concept

I like the idea behind the BAT, which is why I wanted some in the first place. Getting rid of third party advertising and being able to reward online content directly. That's amazing. From the other side of it, to receive some kind of payment from anyone directly for what you've posted is a dream come true. Your audience doesn't have to be enticed to click on an ad, that's going to take it somewhere off your site, or click an affiliate link (same thing), or purchase some item you've designed (T-shirt, coffee mug, jewelry) in order to monetize your content.

It's a great idea, isn't it? Kind of like STEEM. Which has been around longer. That has an assortment of social media dApps sitting on it, where people have been posting, commenting and curating for over three years now.

So? What About It?

Recently, @llfarms asked in a blog post for users to define what STEEM is. Then, @whatsup went a little further along with @paulag to make posts out of their definitions. Undoubtedly, more have been spawned that I'm not aware of. I think those are all very good questions and answers. They're being asked and given so that there's a starting point that eventually leads to action.

But by whom? In the past, I would say these questions are being asked to come up with something to propose to Steemit Inc., where it would probably get lost in whatever Steemit Inc was trying to do. Now, there's any of a number of alliances and councils, initiatives and proposals getting together to put forward projects of all kinds. Most are concentrating on building out STEEM, but some are also considering marketing, while a few are actually doing it.

Any one of them could probably take up the mantle of bettering STEEM's position in the cryptoverse.

Or, maybe there will be someone new emerge and just start doing it, while trying to attract as many people to the cause as they can. That seems to be the way, if not the preferred way, of a decentralized system.

Just Do It

A quote attributed to Balaji S. Srinivasan has been sitting on my desktop for months. I like it a lot, and apparently, others have already bought into the sentiment, without even needing the quote, since the quote actually names folks who have done it. It reads:


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I think rather than using the term argue, I might amend it to say, "Don't wait around for regulation to change, or monetary policy, or whatever. Build the alternative."

Who knows how much expertise the guys behind Uber or Bitcoin had when it came to coming up with their life changing ideas. They probably needed to be educated in something they didn't know at some point, or have someone onboard who did. The fact is, they figured it out. They went around the existing rules/tech/system, or even smashed their way through them.

My thought is, if you find yourself concerned about some aspect about STEEM, and would like it addressed, see what kind of attention you can bring to it, collect some opinions/data/information—there's no time like the present.

Be aware that it's probably not going anywhere if you don't end up leading the charge, or guiding it along to its final destination. This might be your cause. You might be the one who needs to pick up the mantle.

Images source—Top images from Coinbase. Bottom image originated on Twitter.

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You just made me think about something never crossed my mind. Maybe the reputation system can be something made with another blockchain!!! It makes a bit sense because it’s something not really dependable on all the attributes of STEEM blockchain and in my view being seperate would have other advantages.

Maybe something of that would be the idea of the SMTs, let’s see.

It’s interesting that the more we use this technology (blockchain) the more we understand how well i can work in Lego mode. Being that (block based system) a system that creates the basics of the databases of the new ERA... which are not necessarily an upgrade of performance but instead a more secure way of dealing with data at large scales.

Think about it!

Well, now you're beyond me, @forykw. However, when you mentioned SMTs, oracles are something that is supposed to be able to more truly match reputation. It's been a while since I read about those, but supposedly they're somehow far more dependable for such things as user authority, however it is that they work.

Ive been using brave for ages now just for the speed and ad blocking and im also a brave creator on my website. Ads arent yet available in my region but good to know its been rolled out and hope to see more from Brave

Hey, @checkohler.

It sounds like ads are only for beta users. Not sure how they're tackling that, if it's rolling out by region or what.

I've had the brave browser for a while, but didn't really have a reason to use it until the steemit started with the ads. I don't really use it for much else other than going to steemit and maybe looking something else up.

I'm hoping that there will be the ability to move the BAT soon, along with earnings from ads, since that's kind of the point, along with awarding publishers.

Good post @glenalbrethsen! Just think where we would be if everyone on STEEM took it upon themselves to recruit and onboard just 1 person. I'm like you, I can't understand why STEEM with its volume and number of users can't seem to get any traction. By the way, I really like the Brave browser. Almost all the ads it sends me to view have been something I was actually interested in seeing. And I've earned about $5 worth of BAT in a few weeks. That beats my high quality STEEM post earnings, lol.

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How do you get Brave to send you ads @blueeyes8960? I signed up recently to try and earn some that way but I don't get shown any ads. Do you need to use it for a while or is there a setting I missed somewhere? 😊

You have to have the Beta version. And there is a place where you "turn on" ads.

Hey, @blueeyes8960.

So, you've been getting ads to click for a few weeks now? Is this on your computer or a phone? I'm on a Macbook, and I just went to the rewards page and it says ads are coming soon. Obviously, they must be available for some version of Brave.

There's something definitely going against STEEM or not really for it, whichever way that might be. Somehow, whatever that is needs to change.

Yes, the ads are active on Windows 10 in the Brave browser.

And yes, something is going on with STEEM, it's down to .38 now!

Wow. Okay. Do you happen to have the BETA version? I guess that can make a difference to, beyond what OS you might have. Very interesting.

And yeah, something is going on, although, it's also happening to ethereum, litecoin and EOS to varying degrees, while Bitcoin is slightly up and BAT is on the rise again. :)

Yes, it's the BETA. Did you do the coinbase earn to get the free $10 of BAT?

Yes, I did. That's the only reason I had BAT in Coinbase. It'll be nice when they finally make it possible to move the BAT from the wallet Brave uses to another wallet, or vice versa. Makes it so I have BAT in two different places, and I'm not sure if I like that.

Duh, that was in the original post, sorry. I forgot what I had read by the time we were doing these replies. You mean we can't move BAT in and out of the wallet on Brave? I guess I hadn't tried that yet but I was thinking about moving it to coinbase when I got May's payout.

No worries. I'm always wondering if I'm not repeating myself too. :) I'm sure I do.

Unless the beta version is different, the one time I went to check how, it wasn't available yet. I think I found it on a forum page somewhere, or it might have been in the FAQ. At any rate, you'll certainly want to double check. I'd love to move mine. :)

@glenalbrethsen - for now the wallet in the Brave browser can only receive funds (and you can deposit BTC, LTC & ETH) and use those funds to tip publishers. As of right now you can't withdraw from it. But in the future you will be able to fully control it AFTER YOU KYC.

I will say steem keeps increasing and decreasing for the past month. Not really much important to be proud of. Just hope the price jacks up soon

That certainly would be nice, @adenijiadeshina. I'm wondering what there is, if anything, that can be done by anyone on the blockchain. It seems like whatever we're doing or not doing, isn't really helping any. I think it's a lack of controlling the narrative myself—we don't have a constant flow of good news going out, and so when there is news, it's generally not so favorable.

I downloaded Brave recently in the hope of earning some through watching ads but, so far, I've not seen any. 😂

yeah, I don't know, @gillianpearce. Sounds like some are using it somehow, and the rest of us will see it soon. :)

I haven't really taken the time to go through the list that's available (there's something like 90,000 authorized publishers), to see what I might want to read and then tip or give BAT to. It's not like I'm over thrilled about clicking on ads even if I do get paid, but hey, if that's what they want to do, I'll at least try it out. :)

I’ve verified my sites if you’ve got some BAT burning a hole in your pocket!

bryanimhoff.com, ithoughtitwouldbezombies.com, appetitefordistractioncomic.com

I like the passive function of how it can disperse BAT to sites you’re interacting with most. I think BAT has an interesting future and can be very complimentary to Steem sites & content.

Hey, @bryan-imhoff.

Okay, I'll have to go take a look. Does it not work with a Steemit blog? Or are you running steempress from these others? I guess I'm wondering if I would need to use my own blog site. Someone, can't remember who, seemed to suggest Steemit blogs might work.

I definitely like the concept, and wish it seemed more user friendly than I've been able to figure out. :)

I don’t know of a way to do it with a Steemit blog as of yet, though I could be wrong. Steemit itself could verify, but any BAT would go to them instead of individual authors. I believe YouTube channels are individualized, but only because Brave created a means of doing so, obviously because of the huge userbase! I’m sure it’s possible for them to break out individual accounts/sub domains on any site with some effort or cooperation.

Verification for the sites I did involved placing a specific verification file in the web directory, which obviously can’t be done on Steem blogs at present.

But yes, I do dabble with SteemPress and other plugins too!

The normal browser isn’t running ads yet, I believe you have to download a beta or developer build version to test it out. It should roll out to everyone pretty soon I believe.

Ah. I see. Thanks @bryan-imhoff. 😊

You have to be using the beta build right now.

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BAT is ramping up to start rewarding people for viewing ads in the brave browser as well as being an alternative income for content creators as well as a way for people to reward content creators they enjoy "consuming".

BAT was a coin that pumped hard back in Summer of 2017 and that is what got it a lot of attention and following. Also, being one of the only coins doing well consistently this year besides BNB.

The final thing that I think helps BAT is that the project developers keep pushing ahead and hitting there goals. I'm not really following crypto like I used to, but it seems like I'm reading something that BAT or Brave Browser has been finished or upgraded.

Hey, @gniksivart.

Yeah, so that explains what's going on with BAT. People have been waiting for the ads part for a while, I think, so if they're finally ready to move on that, I can see why that would cause some price jumping. I guess it helps for the development team to actually make and hit their goals, too. :)

It must be an upgrade to the Brave browser coming out, since it's been up and running as a browser now for a while. Haven't gone to look what they're might be as far as an update yet, but should probably do that.

It's a great idea—taking it to the masses, so to speak, as opposed to trying to get the masses to move to you. It'll be interesting to see how all of this continues to play out.

I'm in agreement. The only way Steem will grow in value is if we build that value.

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Hey, @ddrfr33k.

Which to me means, anyone who has an idea needs to work on that, bring as much support as they can, and make it happen. Those of us who are actually here to use/test things, need to keep doing that. The creators need to create, the curators and the commenters need to do that, and the developers need to develop.

Someone needs to set up some marketing, and actually get it out to news outlets. I'm not sure how the Twitter campaign(s) are going, but using existing social media is definitely one way of getting the word out, getting to the where the people are.

The #seven77 tag is going very strong on Twitter, thanks in no small part to @nathanmars and his efforts. I see a decent number of people on Steem Twitter posting and talking about Steem.

Myself? Well, you know about my support of @vimm...

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Excellent review @glenalbrethsen and very correct words, that alternative is the best solution to move forward!