My Palcoin Curation Process

in #palnet6 years ago (edited)

Hello Palcoinians!!!....or Palnetians....?

I'm happy to see so many of you lovely people posting on palnet.io and/or using the palnet tag!

I've been manually curating Palnet posts every night and I just wanted to talk a bit about my curation process.

As I scroll through all the posts, here's what I tend to vote:

People:

  • Members of the Palnet community:
    The Palnet Discord has been around for 2 years. Many people have been there since the very beginning and others have joined along the way. There are members who help with community curation, help out new members with registration, and/or just hang out during our msp-waves radio shows.
    Palcoin is for everyone. Anyone and everyone can use the palnet tag or use palnet.io, but it is important to me to reward those who are part of our community.
  • Steem Community Leaders/Influencers:
    These are people on the Steem Blockchain who are helping others on the chain via their stake, knowledge, guidance, initiatives, communication, expertise, etc.
    These individuals put in a lot of time to help others and I want to reward them for their efforts.
    (Are you a community leader that helps others on the Steem Blockchain? Let me know in the comments!)
  • People who are powering up Palcoin instead of dumping it:
    lol a little harsh I know...but hey...I want Palcoin to succeed for everyone. If you are dumping every coin you get that only harms the initiative and everyone who is part of it.

Content:

  • Posts about Palnet, Steem, or Steem related projects/initiatives.

  • Posts that show some effort was put into them.

  • Posts about cats???

So, let me just talk a bit about what I mean regarding "effort" by describing what I feel is "low effort" posting:

  • Posts with just an image and no text...or just 1 or 2 sentences.

  • Actifit type posts

Now, I'm not judging....I'm just saying that I'm not going to curate those posts with Palcoin!

Allow me to expand upon my thoughts here:

When I first started on the Steem Blockchain in 2017 it was all about blogging. People wanted to see long posts with cool markdown, pics, text dividers etc.
Over time it seems that there has been a shift away from blogging to dapps.
Here's the way I see it. If we ever want mass adoption, we can't expect the average person to create intricate blogs.
So, I personally don't care about all the bells and whistles of blogging.
I don't really care what your post looks like...I care about the actual content and what is in it!
However, I want to use my Palcoin stake on posts with some effort put into them.
One picture or just a few sentences isn't going to inspire me to vote your post.

As far as not upvoting posts that only show one picture....here's the deal. I know some photographers or artists have been bothered by this, but those of you who spend time curating know how many plagiarists we have found on Steem.
If a curator doesn't know you and they only see a post containing one picture, they will likely skip over your post and not upvote it.
We have no way of knowing whose work it is unless you tell us more about it.
Show us the process of your artwork.
Talk about your photography...how you captured the shot....what lens you used etc.
If you are posting a song....tell us about the song and your process and whatnot.

Exceptions:

There are artists that I know are legit here just because we have been on this blockchain together for years. I don't necessarily need to see a process of their work at this point.

There are people that I know here who consistently make "quality" content and engage with others on the platform.
Let's say they make a quick post to announce something important.
Or let's say they make a funny meme or statement that gets a ton of comments.
The point here is that these are not the type of people that consistently "spam" the blockchain with short, crappy posts lol
So, if they occasionally make a shorter, "quick" post..... that may be worthy of a vote as well.

One of the main reasons for the inception of this here Palcoin project is to curate great posts!

Those of us who started this project have a fairly large stake with our goal being to distribute rewards to quality authors.

We want to see a trending page that actually has great content on it!

Keep on using the palnet tag and I'll see you on palnet.io!!!

Pal top graphic and bottom GIF by the amazing @elgeko
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Hi @isaria!

First of all huge thanks for your upvotes that earned me some PALs. You are probably the only/main person making me earn some PALs.

Having been involved with Curie since the beginning of my Steem journey, I completely understand your reasoning for the quality of posts. Curie is probably the most strict regarding quality.

I have also been involved with @steemhunt for more than a year as a moderator, hunter, etc. I truly believe this is one of the best projects on Steem, and adds great value to Steem. While I can understand Steemhunt post may seem "low effort" posts. By default,​ users can only post 1000 characters. Most of the effort goes beyond the post itself​ but hunting the newest and coolest products.

I personally, mainly post Steemhunt post, as I believe in the project, the team, and any activity contributes to the project. Once Reviewhunt is launched soon, there probably will be posts with more substance to qualify as a traditional blog.

Grateful for your upvotes, just wanted to clarify about Steemhunt. It is more than what it seems at ​first glance.

P.S. I sold my airdrop PALs to see it is real. I think people selling PALs is healthy in a long run. Builds confidence in the project and the community.

Hi @geekgirl! Thanks so much for sharing this info with me. Now that I think about it, I think I upvoted one of your Steemhunt posts lol. I guess I was confusing it with something else, apologies. I admire your work on the blockchain so I will take your words regarding Steemhunt to heart by not excluding it and editing my post....thank you!

Hi @isaria, why not just pal?:) How are you pal, I am prety good pal,you? lol.

Thank you for the heplful insight about curation. I think it is more or less like that in every community, those who are rewarded are the ones to be trusted and the ones who bring good content and value to the community. In the art tag which i am most active, artists confuse sometimes the value of the artwork they created with the value of the post presenting it.

The presentation of the post is more valuable because it shows that the artist care to share a about her/his inspiration, process and thoughts. It shows level of respect to the community also, just throwing a photo and a title looks a bit rude,lol.

Keep up the good work, you have my support and i am hoping for a greater expansion of the community:) Also if you need people to curate art or photography, i am ready to jump in,lol

Awesome that you go out and curate-hunt like that. The PAL upvotes are often more worth than the Steem upvotes, particularly for smaller Steemians. Crazy stuff that you guys created there.

By the way, cool GIF at the end. May I use that in my posts?

Thank you flauwy! That GIF was created by the amazing @elgeko and yes he has given permission for others to use it! He also created the top Pal logo....I guess I should have just cited the source to give him credit at the bottom of the post.....I'll edit.
Anyway....thanks! lol

Hi Wow! Much good post! many fine things!

Nice post.....follow 4 follow?????

great explanation @isaria ... not sure if you have noticed or not but some of the folks posting Actifit reports are combining the reports with some decent content about what they see during their activities.

Thanks Shadows. I have seen some of those, but most of what I see is the same red Actifit main pic and title of Actifit Report card, with just one sentence written. If some people are adding more content to those posts then I would recommend that they add more to the title and change the main pic because I know I'm not alone in passing over those posts.

I have definitely found myself putting -way- more time into evaluating posts and curating on pal than I ever did on Steem...I also find myself actually reading folk’s posts instead of voting via name, rep and cover image....the inability to bot yourself up changes the entire paradigm.

Absolutely.....me too!

That's good, congrats for the position and the kind work, some people have talents in writing, some people have talents in other things, giving value for the amount of words, is like if a director create a movie and nobody give a value to it because he didnt wrote the story :d, but he rather let people watch his movie and decide their own ideas, just like my idea about music, like what should a musician write about its music? Hello I am X I made this music about Z, but what if we dont limit a music to a topic and let people decide and everyone can feel it in their own way. This is why I dont type much in my music posts :d . I also wanted to know why selling pal is not good? If nobody sell, then how can someone buy? The balance of sell and buy can make a coin alive, and pal had one issue, the sellers were more than buyers, either selling is not bad.

Thank you for this post, wish you and the team success :)

  1. I'm not talking about selling "some" coins. Notice that I said "If you are dumping every coin you get". "Every" is the key here.
    We want people to build stake here in order to build the community. Staking your palcoin helps everyone because you are then rewarding palcoin to those who you vote who use the palnet tag. Dumping all your palcoin does not help the community.

  2. "If a curator doesn't know you and they only see a post containing one picture, they will likely skip over your post and not upvote it."
    That's just the reality.
    Plagiarism exists on this chain. People post photography, art, and music that isn't theirs.
    If you are new then it is in your best interest to add some text talking about your process....
    Once you are established on the chain and most people know that your work is your own, well that's a different story....as I stated toward the end of my post when I said "There are artists that I know are legit here just because we have been on this blockchain together for years. I don't necessarily need to see a process of their work at this point."

Also, I have been on this blockchain for over 2 years and I still generally write about the music that I post. I talk about what inspired me to write it......what I was going through at the time. Or I may talk about some of the process that went into the recording. Or I will create artwork with the Lyrics. People actually like to read about that stuff....so you may want to do it yourself. 😉

Thanks for the reply, yes you are right about Dumping, and yes I am doing it exactly the way you mentioned. ;)

Nice point of view. Thanks for let to know it. But to be True many photographers are spending much time with postprocessing of their pictures. It's an effort too.
I am a member of photography related curation guild in Russian fork of Steem. I know there are many problems with low quality and plagiarism. But there are many photographs which does not need a text because they are good content themself.

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I totally agree that text is not "necessary" as the photograph is the important part. As an artist myself I understand all the effort it takes in the creation of art. But if the curator doesn't know the artist then adding a process or information about the art via text is helpful. This is because most plagiarists we have found ONLY post a picture.

If people's subjective valuations of their AFIT tokens on steem-engine are anything to go by, they won't need your PAL upvotes - one person seems to think they deserve 1.5 Steem for every step they've recorded.

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Based on the fact that I earn around 20 AFIT for 5K steps, note under my alt-account because actifit type posts are also one of my ideal-typical examples of low-quality posts, as a general rule: Capture.PNG

One of things I like about PAL (and there's a lot to like) is the fact that there's actually some objective standards being used to judge people's content! Hopefully we can all agree that the idea of earning 750 Steem for walking 500 paces is just utter guff.

Then again if someone decides to pay that, good to luck to them, markets can be irrational places at times.

Talking of markets, in some ways I wish more people were dumping PAL - I had a pretty turgid time yesterday watching my fairly large order getting constantly pipped by smaller bids - I must have cancelled and reset it two dozen times over the course of the day.

All bought up now, all good.

If you can earn 750 Steem for 500 paces I’m about to get super shredded walking around.

If that is the case I think I can finally get into a good shape lol. Maybe I'll even try the one punch man training routine xD

Careful not to wear your feet out, you only have two of them.

Hi @isaria , I want to ask about the Palnet tag, if everyone uses the Palnet tag in each post in the middle or at the end. Are they going to get a number of Palcoins, as you have said by "Jeffy the Cat?