RE: No true communist,...
Ok, this is the point where I stop defending what came before, afaik nobody has proposed what I have proposed, ie, keep working, stop paying.
Specifically, by co-opting the existing distribution systems, by continuing to supply the shelves, without continuing the crapitalust's accounting gimmicks, merely producing to meet demand, we can have a world that is free of the 'economic' shackles that keep us from colonizing space.
Imagine nasa with an all volunteer labor force, from the miner that mines to minerals to the mathematician that keeps the rockets in orbit, this is my proposal.
That closely resembles what is currently known as collectivism, hence my use of a familiar, though misdefined, term, communism.
I have no desire to defend what has come before, except maybe Berkman, but he didn't have Costco to hijack in his day.
As for the fallacy reference it was an attempt to catch folks' attention, if the rewards can be taken as an indication, it may have worked.
WHat youre describing( workers owning the means of production and taking what they want from producers) is leninist war communism. They tried it from about 1918 until 1921 and it was a complete disaster.
Replying here due to nesting, commenting the slavery comment, I really need to learn markdown,....
You are correct, for me to take your goods and not give satisfaction to you, would be wrong of me, but it is freedom, otherwise, as in the status quo, I have to meet the terms set out in a market controlled by you.
Currently, I have to either wage slave, or exploit my neighbors' inability to perform an act, ie, fix the dishwasher, make a guitar, etc,... in order to trade in a market that is controlled by someone other than myself.
Not a free market scenario.
In a free market scenario bums would self regulate by garnering the ire of their neighbors, folks would refuse to co-operate with them.
This link describes such a scenario pretty dang well,.... F-IW,...
http://www.abelard.org/e-f-russell.php
Yeah, not exactly, if you read the history you will see that rule by force, and not cooperation along mutual aid lines, was used to set up a crapitalust pyramid (bosses get more than workers, everybody gets paid wages in fiat money).
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-there-is-no-communism-in-russia
The peasants were starved to feed the fat cats in the city, not because cooperative endeavors naturally fail, but because they got screwed by greedy crapitalusts that used the propaganda of the anarchists to delude the peasants into remaining on the plantations until failure was assured.
Starving them was cheaper than shooting them,...
Surely you don't dismiss the idea that we are capable of organizing along lines that distribute the work more equitably than the status quo?
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/voline-the-unknown-revolution-1917-1921-book-one-birth-growth-and-triumph-of-the-revolution
Nestor Mahkno,....a little too hard for his own good.