Thanks for the reply. I understand what your saying about ruling by force. But what i dont understand is how a small group can say they no longer want to be part of a whole. Its like they are saying to all the millions of non catalonian spanish, i know you guys want to stay united but its not working for us, so were leaving... Then when the spanish democracy says " well hold on, if you want to leave, we need the entire country to vote on it as it affects everyone, you cant just make this decision by yourself". Then catalonia is like "wow, i dont know why your so upset it is my decision... I do what i want".

So yeah that was my thoughts, but i am not from europe so struggle to understand geopolitical/historical/cultural sensativites from the region. It just seems like the whole world is putting up fences and saying they want to be alone... What happened to "we are strongest when united".

P.s. Sorry if my satircal tone sounded insincere, not intended that way.