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RE: U.S.America the fourth Reich- Several states petition supreme court to make it legal to fire LGBT employees

in #dlike7 years ago

I have a lot of respect for you not getting angry and calling me a bigot. That is what I honestly expected when I left my first comment. I am aware of most of these things you have listed, but the difference is I'm coming from the political right, and thus inhabit a different sphere where we view many of these issues much differently.

Most Republicans I know of actually don't oppose gay marriage, and I don't recall any threats to it being invoked in recent history. In fact, a Christian Baker was harassed by an online mob for not making a custom cake that violated his beliefs. He only barely won that case when it went to the Supreme Court, and only after irreparable damage to his reputation. To put into perspective, it would be like a gay baker being forced to make a custom cake stating something to the extent of "homosexuality is a sin". He shouldn't be forced to do that, and neither should the Christian baker. There were plenty of bakers willing to make the custom cake for the gay couple(that were located much closer to where their wedding was going to be), so the Christian appears to have been targeted with malicious intent.

The Pence thing about conversion therapy is a bit of a misquote. It was his position at a time, though he never advocated electroshock as some people suggest: (From Snopes) "Mike Pence once supported the use of federal funding to treat people "seeking to change their sexual behavior."" I don't see any mention of him still holding this position or making any moves towards acting upon it. I would be happy to review evidence to the contrary.

In regards to hispanics and immigrants... you know Trump's support is growing among them, right? He has always been against illegal immigrants only, which many legal immigrants are against as well. Imagine if you spent several years legally migrating to the US(costing both time and money), and meanwhile someone else just jumps the border and skips that whole process. You probably wouldn't be fond of them, either. This distinction of illegal vs legal is too many times papered over, as Trump has never advocated removing the rights of those who already immigrated here legally or were physically born here. That would be unconstitutional, and all law abiding people would oppose that. Including me.

There are two sides to these issues, and the hostile climate isn't caused by the issues themselves. It is caused by misinformation and demonization of the other side as an existential threat. Contrary to what some right wing pundits might tell me, I don't think you are actively working to destroy America through moral degeneracy. I think you have a different worldview/philosophy from mine, but in the end we both just want everyone to be treated fairly.

I'm sorry I can't go through and address all your points, but we might be here all night going back and forth if I do. And unfortunately, I've got work I should have done a while ago as well as more work in the morning. I just wanted to let you know that things aren't quite as bad as the news might have you believe, and there are perspectives you may not have considered.

But I will follow up with this one question, as I'm genuinely interested; has there been any policy of this administration that has affected you personally? As in, it wasn't just a news story, but one of the policies or removal of policies affected your actual day to day life? I won't count online harassment, by the way, since I receive plenty of that as well despite not being LGBT.

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