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RE: Should the act of taking "creep shots" of people be ostracized?
No. If you don't like being the subject of creep shots, stay in your house. I understand why it's morally wrong and I agree it's stupid. But when you start drawing red lines based on your ethics and your personal taste, then someone will come and draw line a bit more back. Etc, etc. And soon you will either be hailing Hitler of getting into jail for using the wrong made up pronoun.
I am talking generally of course. As you said in steem it's a totally different thing. Stakeholders decide.
All the good ol' slippery slope argument. That's can go both ways.
First, you're normalizing (and in your case encouraging)one type of behavior and next thing you know you're making pseudo intellectual
drivelarguments as to why white people can't wear corn rows or that pedaphilia is OK.You're lost in a sea of moral relativity but thanks for the comment.
Not lost at all. My morals are my morals, as I get older some change as i see more of the world, but at any given point I know what they are. But they are my morals and I don't try to force them on other people. Laws do that, and I am just glad that my country still is somewhat of democracy.
For the rest I'll abstain, if there is one thing I have learnt in my life is that internet debates are a huge waste of time and usually leas nowhere 😂
We see things differently is all. I don't assent postmodern bullshit but my morality is something static for the most part.
I reckon our worldviews have a different basis hence the conflict. I don't use force but I absolutely will try to prick a man's conscience.
I won't coddle perspectives that denigrate the dignity of persons and their value which I believe is inherent. It's about respect. Where you see no fault. I see transgression..
That's basically the crux. Again sorry to fly off the handle as I could have been more charitable. You knew the right button to press and caused my weakness to show. (wrath / anger)
We all have our faults. Have a good weekend
I think ostracism is all about democracy.
That argument is in the same vein as "If she didn't want to get raped, shouldn't have worn the skimpy dress."
You understand that, right?
"If she didn't want to have her dignity and / or privacy violated, should not have gone outside."
I mean you do see this, right? Sorry for being snarky but your form of argumentation makes my head hurt.
You compare a rape to a creep shot. You are pretty much the same with all those crazy feminazis and sjws claiming they have PTSD because somebody said a mean word or used the wrong pronoun.
But yeah, I agree. My form of argumentation is faulty.
He compares the "reasoning" behind rape with the reasoning behind your "if you don't want creepshots".
Yeah I get that. The thing is creep shooting is legal, since taking photos in public is legal. If you really don't want to get creep shot there is only one thing you can do. Stay out of public sight and in your house. :)I guess I could have worded it differently to make that more clear but it's too late now
No one said that this is about violating people's rights at all, hence ostracism not a petition for more laws, so it isn't about stoping creepshoting, maybe that cleared the confusion. I think it very hard to object to ostracizing creepshoting, which is the position you took arguing that ostracizing such behavior will lead to more and more "lines in the sand".
Well I have the belief, which may well be wrong, that when somebody tries to rally up people to flag the shit out of a certain behavior here on steem, they would do the equivalent in real life if they had enough power. And by equivalent I mean turning it illegal. This is why my response wasn't talking exclusively about steem but was more generic. I think I clarified that in one of my comments.
To further elaborate this part. What you do on steem pretty much reflects what you would do in real life or what you would do if you had sufficient power. So tomayto tomahto.
Might doesn't make right but it takes courage to call out what's wrong.
You lack the latter. (or perhaps it's just sycophantry)
I think we can see your comments to evaluate that.