Gyroscopic precession is a little counterintuitive bit here goes: rotational force exerts another force called torque. Torque works through the axis of the spining object against other forces. Centripedal force is the opposite of centrifugal force. Thus the floating pendulum of Foucalt has the exact same mathematical principals as the gyroscope. Does that help?
i understand the concept, i don't agree with the conclusions.
a gyroscope doesn't move. this pendulum appears too.
a pendulum does, why does it? globe earth people claim they know, but it doesn't match a gyroscope that is suppose to be the same.
i can only conclude that, they are not the same...
possibly the pendulum is flowing the sun's electromagnetic force.
you see, depending on what you set out to explain it as, each can be used, and each can come to a conclusion that appears to support it.
but the gyroscope, it should behave in one way (by rotate 360 degree every 24 hours) but it doesn't. we can understand that, the pendulum could easily be controlled by an outside magnetic force, either via trickery or outside source... but clearly the same force claimed, ie the rotation of the earth does not effect the gyroscope...
so in science, we observe they are not the same, so whoever, and however this came to be common knowledge... it is wrong.
just like the ships going over the horizon, provably false, yet still is used as proof by many in the globe/flat earth debate.
overtime, i've come to find globe earther's ignore facts, or try to explain them away with words.
my common sense tells me that truth becomes clear, and lies fall apart... and the globe earth false apart under scrutiny.
Friction. The math behind them is correct, but thermodynamics is applied to the physics. A gyro in a vacuum eventually dies too, just not in a human lifetime. Also "Sea Level" is a lot of different things in a lot of different places. In Florida it is feet lower than Maine, in Cali it is higher than both. Not sure if that is for or against the flat theory, but water is never "level."
Friction. The math behind them is correct, but thermodynamics is applied to the physics. A gyro in a vacuum eventually dies too, just not in a human lifetime.
the gryo doesn't move. that is significant.
the globe earth model would predict it rotates 360 degrees every 24 hours.
but it doesn't. it just sits there and spins, until friction stops it.
Also "Sea Level" is a lot of different things in a lot of different places.
no, no it isn't. tide rise and fall (and we don't know why, because gravity doesn't explain it how a smaller object is overriding the gravity of the larger.. these theories literally contradict themselves)
Not sure if that is for or against the flat theory, but water is never "level."
don't know where you heard that garbage, but that is false as it gets.
A Doctorate in fluid tension dynamics explained it to me. It is nt "garbage. " I really cannot hold a conversation with someone who resorts to Ad Hominem or any other fallacious arguments. Not to say you outright lost the round, simply that you are not capable of debate.
Read the piece on Foucalt's Pendulum in full if you are able to look at that. It behaves along the same mathematical premises as a gyroscope coming to a stop. In different parts of the world both simple machines act differently. Yet the exact motion can be predicted bases on its placement on the face of the earth. The math is relatively simple and predicts the same behavior from the object resisting gravity (gyro) and the object succumbing to gravity (pendulum). The Earth's oceans are not an exact "egg" because of land masses. Other planets have exact "egg" masses of water. When we look really far away, through a telescope or microscope, the theories break down. Molecules larger than mountains within neutrino stars or super-symmetric z-bosons tell us that our math and science are fundamentally wrong to begin with. Google sea level variances, sea level is not one thing.
While oceans are not made up of heavy water or long-chain molecules, surface tension most definitely applies to them. I simply do not know enough to conclude for sure if the earth is flat or spherical, but I would bet there is a third, more accurate, description to be yet discovered. As long as everyone believes it is a sphere, that option will not be discovered.
Okie, gotta admit I might have been wrong. https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/globalsl.html There is no explanation of the sea level variance and it has only been published (mostly) by one government organization. It was verbally explained to me, and in an elegant manner, but I have not seen actual evidence. This is a probably a flat earth point, with so little info. Like NASA took 2 pictures of the planet Earth in 70 years? Why? Not siding, but the variable sea level has data showing the measurement, but incomplete data showing the variable. Explanation: No real science to explain......
my understanding is sea level is sea level across the globe, once accounted for tides and such.
being wrong isn't a crime, being able to admit it is amazingly brave in this day and age.
to me, proving me wrong just helps me get rid of false data. so i am happy if you can prove me wrong. only by talking to with many and allowing my ideas to be put into the fire of online debate can i be sure that i have correct information.
to be honest, i'm glad to find real people.. so tired of talking to paid schills, but i figure others are reading it so it is worth my time. take care and good luck in your journey to discover truth !
As far as I can say time is integral to most conceptions of reality. It might have been created in the late 1800's as a gimmick to sell wristwatches, I was not around then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault_pendulum
I do not quite see what you are saying here. A gyroscope acts slightly different, depending upon where it is on the face of the Earth. A gyro by definition is rotating or it falls. Are you speaking of revolution?
this is what i mean, a gyroscope, spinning and holding position in perfect equilibrium. this should be impossible on globe earth, because of the rotation of the earth.
but the gyroscope, once properly setup, will just sit there an not move. i didn't watch this whole video, not vouching for its entirety, but it appears he set it up like i understand and then video taped it not moving.
Gyroscopic precession is a little counterintuitive bit here goes: rotational force exerts another force called torque. Torque works through the axis of the spining object against other forces. Centripedal force is the opposite of centrifugal force. Thus the floating pendulum of Foucalt has the exact same mathematical principals as the gyroscope. Does that help?
i understand the concept, i don't agree with the conclusions.
a gyroscope doesn't move. this pendulum appears too.
a pendulum does, why does it? globe earth people claim they know, but it doesn't match a gyroscope that is suppose to be the same.
i can only conclude that, they are not the same...
possibly the pendulum is flowing the sun's electromagnetic force.
you see, depending on what you set out to explain it as, each can be used, and each can come to a conclusion that appears to support it.
but the gyroscope, it should behave in one way (by rotate 360 degree every 24 hours) but it doesn't. we can understand that, the pendulum could easily be controlled by an outside magnetic force, either via trickery or outside source... but clearly the same force claimed, ie the rotation of the earth does not effect the gyroscope...
so in science, we observe they are not the same, so whoever, and however this came to be common knowledge... it is wrong.
just like the ships going over the horizon, provably false, yet still is used as proof by many in the globe/flat earth debate.
overtime, i've come to find globe earther's ignore facts, or try to explain them away with words.
my common sense tells me that truth becomes clear, and lies fall apart... and the globe earth false apart under scrutiny.
Friction. The math behind them is correct, but thermodynamics is applied to the physics. A gyro in a vacuum eventually dies too, just not in a human lifetime. Also "Sea Level" is a lot of different things in a lot of different places. In Florida it is feet lower than Maine, in Cali it is higher than both. Not sure if that is for or against the flat theory, but water is never "level."
the gryo doesn't move. that is significant.
the globe earth model would predict it rotates 360 degrees every 24 hours.
but it doesn't. it just sits there and spins, until friction stops it.
no, no it isn't. tide rise and fall (and we don't know why, because gravity doesn't explain it how a smaller object is overriding the gravity of the larger.. these theories literally contradict themselves)
don't know where you heard that garbage, but that is false as it gets.
A Doctorate in fluid tension dynamics explained it to me. It is nt "garbage. " I really cannot hold a conversation with someone who resorts to Ad Hominem or any other fallacious arguments. Not to say you outright lost the round, simply that you are not capable of debate.
Take it easy PB. A lack of training in classical logic is regular nowadays and there are no real insults here.
you are appealing to authority...
you are not holding a conversation, your attempting to talk over my head.
but i know what you said doesn't make any sense.
no, i'm just saying your wrong, flat out.
you claim your right, i'm saying you don't know what your talking about, then you tell me you don't because you got it from
there is such a thing as water tension, which is why water droplets form.. .but it doesn't apply to large lake or ocean.
go back to your friend, find out what he means, because you obviously didn't get it right.
then find a way to say it and prove it without saying 'because i'm so smart, you don't get it'
Read the piece on Foucalt's Pendulum in full if you are able to look at that. It behaves along the same mathematical premises as a gyroscope coming to a stop. In different parts of the world both simple machines act differently. Yet the exact motion can be predicted bases on its placement on the face of the earth. The math is relatively simple and predicts the same behavior from the object resisting gravity (gyro) and the object succumbing to gravity (pendulum). The Earth's oceans are not an exact "egg" because of land masses. Other planets have exact "egg" masses of water. When we look really far away, through a telescope or microscope, the theories break down. Molecules larger than mountains within neutrino stars or super-symmetric z-bosons tell us that our math and science are fundamentally wrong to begin with. Google sea level variances, sea level is not one thing.
While oceans are not made up of heavy water or long-chain molecules, surface tension most definitely applies to them. I simply do not know enough to conclude for sure if the earth is flat or spherical, but I would bet there is a third, more accurate, description to be yet discovered. As long as everyone believes it is a sphere, that option will not be discovered.
Okie, gotta admit I might have been wrong. https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/globalsl.html There is no explanation of the sea level variance and it has only been published (mostly) by one government organization. It was verbally explained to me, and in an elegant manner, but I have not seen actual evidence. This is a probably a flat earth point, with so little info. Like NASA took 2 pictures of the planet Earth in 70 years? Why? Not siding, but the variable sea level has data showing the measurement, but incomplete data showing the variable. Explanation: No real science to explain......
my understanding is sea level is sea level across the globe, once accounted for tides and such.
being wrong isn't a crime, being able to admit it is amazingly brave in this day and age.
to me, proving me wrong just helps me get rid of false data. so i am happy if you can prove me wrong. only by talking to with many and allowing my ideas to be put into the fire of online debate can i be sure that i have correct information.
to be honest, i'm glad to find real people.. so tired of talking to paid schills, but i figure others are reading it so it is worth my time. take care and good luck in your journey to discover truth !
A 4D planet is not flat or round.....That is where I am right now. Water seeks it's own level....never arrives there.
why do you think you could know this absolutely?
sure it does. we see lakes in perfect calm states look like a mirror. we so no concave/convex curve happening. so it is level.
sea level is the same everywhere, one you account for the tides.
i don't see the relevancy of either of these statements you made here.
As far as I can say time is integral to most conceptions of reality. It might have been created in the late 1800's as a gimmick to sell wristwatches, I was not around then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault_pendulum
that is a pendulum. they claim they know why it does what it does.. that or it is a gigantic magic trick.
but they can't explain why a gyroscope stays stationary when globe theory says it would rotate every 24 hours by 360 degrees.
since it doesn't, then we aren't moving.
I do not quite see what you are saying here. A gyroscope acts slightly different, depending upon where it is on the face of the Earth. A gyro by definition is rotating or it falls. Are you speaking of revolution?
this is what i mean, a gyroscope, spinning and holding position in perfect equilibrium. this should be impossible on globe earth, because of the rotation of the earth.
but the gyroscope, once properly setup, will just sit there an not move. i didn't watch this whole video, not vouching for its entirety, but it appears he set it up like i understand and then video taped it not moving.