Following evidence
Clip from talk with Neil Oliver, Tim Kelly and John Campbell. Times and opinions have changed.
Check out Neil's channel as well, / @neil-oliver
Follow Tim on X, https://x.com/DrTimothyKelly
https://www.youtube.com/@Campbellteaching
https://drjohncampbell.co.uk
https://www.patreon.com/JohnCampbell2