Absolutely nobody has the "power" to murder you, so when you speak about thugs with guns, you might as well ask ANY gang for a degree of recognition or demand your sovereignty from whatever murdering psychopaths you wish.

Now to exemplify how there is NOTHING to debate about what I said:

Either the people you vie for their recognition are Oath Takers, or they are Lawlessness, and either way, if you WANT that recognition it is your DUTY to establish lawfulness and secure your own Freedom, peace and make the demands you need upon all those that Serve you.

To end the debate completely, you are either a Citizen who has DUTIES to the state, or are a Sovereign, who has DUTIES to themselves, and can nobody Serve two masters and NEVER shall the role of Master and Servant be confused. Come back to this thread and start at the beginning with what I said and make notes of everything that interests you, including this:

http://annavonreitz.com/writofquowarranto.pdf

(that's about the only article on that website that isn't directly credited to Judge Anna, all the rest are dripping with information)