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RE: Trump signs memo ending 'catch and release' immigration policy and warns California for sanctuary cities.

Instead of trying to debate you, which I obviously do not have the information to do I will say this before saving your link for later study. In order to be a truly free and sovereign being there is a degree of recognition required by those with the power to send guns in to kidnap or murder you. Now whether they are called this version of the US or that version doesn't really matter as to the end result to the idea of one being sovereign.

There is another user here who is pretty knowledgeable who introduced me to some ideas about We the People (not his ideas, he merely passed them on). Based on the blatant disregard I see from the government when the constitution applies to the common citizen, it begins to fit with the walks like a duck, talks like a duck scenario.

I appreciate the recommendation ,thanks.

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Absolutely nobody has the "power" to murder you, so when you speak about thugs with guns, you might as well ask ANY gang for a degree of recognition or demand your sovereignty from whatever murdering psychopaths you wish.

Now to exemplify how there is NOTHING to debate about what I said:

Either the people you vie for their recognition are Oath Takers, or they are Lawlessness, and either way, if you WANT that recognition it is your DUTY to establish lawfulness and secure your own Freedom, peace and make the demands you need upon all those that Serve you.

To end the debate completely, you are either a Citizen who has DUTIES to the state, or are a Sovereign, who has DUTIES to themselves, and can nobody Serve two masters and NEVER shall the role of Master and Servant be confused. Come back to this thread and start at the beginning with what I said and make notes of everything that interests you, including this:

http://annavonreitz.com/writofquowarranto.pdf

(that's about the only article on that website that isn't directly credited to Judge Anna, all the rest are dripping with information)