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RE: HEADLINES: Friday, September 14th, 2018 - Hurricane Florence Strikes, New Strzok/Page Texts, Censorship and Corporate Tyranny Continues, EU Legislates Internet Death, Top Google Engineers Resign, Muslim Grooming Gangs, Manafort, Steem, and More
Mueller’s authorization is actually quite expansive:
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3726381/Robert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.pdf
Squeezing Manafort to move up the food chain makes perfect sense given that’s how mob bosses get taken down. That’s how Mueller nailed Gotti, why would this be any different?
Short of a Saturday Night Massacre, I don’t see Mueller stopping.
Sure he can ruin many people's lives just due to the expense of legal defense. All the while after something like 19 months they still haven't found any Russian Collusion OR Obstruction of Justice which is what the mission was supposed to be. They did find that $100K bot Russian stuff but that was equally applied to all candidates and wasn't propping up one versus the other. Also that is nothing compared to the current censorship in terms of Collusion.
He has damaged quite a number of people, spent a lot of money, and caused other people to have to spend a lot of money.
Though you are likely right. It likely won't stop until A) he finds something, or B) he is FORCED to stop. Though I can't say he'll stop with A either as he seems very much unaccountable to anyone.
We have no way to know that. In a city that leaks like a sieve, Mueller’s team has been basically leak-proof. They might have found all kinds of stuff that we just haven’t heard about yet.
He’s accountable to the Assistant Attorney General.
This is true. Yet, if they found the proof why wait and put the country through the divisiveness of waiting?
Maybe because they want to follow more leads and collect more evidence. Crossing t’s and dotting i’s. For instance, Mueller still hasn’t interviewed Trump even though Trump has several times said he’d just love to talk to Mueller. Rudy keeps trotting out that absurd “perjury trap” nonsense.
Actually it is not nonsense. It is a known tactic of the FBI. It is actually what they got Flynn on before all of this started. You said X back Y Months ago and now you are saying Z which contradicts X so you are lying. Could it be a lie? Yes. If it is intentional. If it is simply not remembering correctly then that isn't a lie. So playing games to get them to say things differently is a ENTRAPMENT.
Trump speaks a lot. Rudy also knows he doesn't tend to follow teleprompters and such. So will he avoid them using something trivial and then claiming it is perjury? I am now a lawyer, but even if I was Trump's lawyer or ANYONE else at this point in other cases due to this pattern of the FBI I'd tell people not to talk to them if there is any way they can avoid doing so. By everyone I am referring to people under any circumstances, even those that have nothing to do with this investigation.
People who are honest don’t need to worry about perjury. Perjury trap is a euphemism for my client will lie under oath. Trump could of course avoid the possibility of perjury simply by invoking the Fifth Amendment, which he has every right to do.
It’s entrapment? Fine then, let him be interviewed like any other suspect. If it really is entrapment, a judge can toss out the testimony.
This day and age that statement is false. People are often accused of lying when they are not lying. Lying requires intent. Failure to remember an event exactly, or if asked about something you are ignorant about that you try to answer is not lying. It can still be incorrect. That doesn't mean it is a lie. A lie requires intent. Perjury requires intent.
They often are entrapping people for things that are neither a lie, nor perjury and still allowing it to go through.
Likewise there are people that have clearly been caught lying and perjuring themselves that won't be held accountable at all if it doesn't fit the desired agenda.
So nice try. It is inaccurate.
In a just world it would be accurate. Yet we don't live in such a world. Perhaps we can bring such a world back into existence, but your deluded if you think the world we are in now is just.
In a just world. This would indeed be the case. As I stated elsewhere it is not just. People clearly guilty walk free often these days, and others face harsh sentences when they shouldn't. There is not an equal application of the law.
If they get a judge who actually honors their oaths and respects the law then you are correct. Yet there are plenty that do not.
All we need do is look at all the judges making rulings about DACA when DACA is not a law, a bill, or anything that those judges actually have the authority to rule upon since it was just the MEMO from the head of Homeland Security stating they were not going to enforce the immigration laws, along with some Obama actions(not even a signed executive action). Yet it is not a law, and it is not a bill. We still have judges who seem to think they have the authority to rule upon those things.
I guess I should have said SCOTUS rather than a judge because that’s where it would end up on appeal.
Still, no one is above the law, something that Mueller at least understands. Rudy, not so much.