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RE: Seeds of Symbiosis SOS a de-stress call

in #palnet6 years ago

There's also the alternative of chopping the male, this wouldn't damage the other and you could do it very easily, and then the female would have the room to grow. The thing about cannabis is that even after you sex all the plants, they will undoubtedly sense that there are no males around and you are guaranteed to have a few herm seeds, or one plant that herms out, I've witnessed this plenty of times, with both cuttings and "feminized" seeds, always have to be on the lookout for the pods/balls. Sorry you were saying something about surrender..

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True, but there was no male to chop and growing outdoors these plants were weeks away from being sexed and transplanted anyway. I'd prefer to not have a dead root mass next to a healthy living female, though one could use hyrgrozyme to deal with this if it was an issue.

Space isn't an issue in 300 gallon pots either, and as far as herming out goes I'd say that has more to do with stress and photo period disruptions that usually arise indoors or in light deps. Poorly backcrossed unstable genetics perhaps as well, but no, full season outdoor plants rarely exhibit hermaphroditic tendencies unless assaulted by bugs or sprayed with bullshit.

In fact the reason modern plants have such a high percentage of thc is from humans sexually frustrating them which increases resinous production. Eventually the lack of diversity will cause problems and inferior inbred genetics.

Left to its own devices cannabis is an anaemophilous species. Though it is interesting you postulate that plants have sentience which I absolutely agree with and in this respect there is likely some truth to your self pollination survival theory.

Thanks for your contribution to the post.

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Is hygroxyme the same as mycorrhizal?

I can't say that the plants I've seen it in weren't stressed out, at least not from heat, but I've heard of this happening to a patch of plants more than once and I don't think they were stressed, and were full season outdoor plants and one out of 25 would always herm out, but I cannot rule out the massive "inbreeding" either.

Have you seen the singing plants, or the cabbage experiment which led to studying sentience in plants? There's also a hormone that plants release when stressed out and other plants react in turn to it, it also affects us if I remember correctly (but it might be something else entirely that trees release after rain, not too sure about it).

Going back to the space, 300 gallons is not bad. I have seen plants grown in 10'x10'x6' deep plots and they filled up the entire space, about 30 pounds dry of girl scout cookies, the soil was ballpark of 60% peatmoss and the rest perlite/vermiculite/and organic soil, they would drink A LOT and feed even more and when I was watering them with low pressure garden hose the soil would start floating almost, rising up a couple of inches. Also had the pleasure of meeting the guy that created the strain, he was an editor for a grow magazine as well, living in a little trailer in the back hills of Mendo off McNab outside Ukiah.

Hygrozyme is similar in that it supports beneficial microbes and nutrient uptake, but unlike mycorrhizae it’s not a fungus that colonizes and promotes a symbiotic relationship. Back to Symbiosis niiice !

Hygrozyme as a blend of enzymes, it’s kind of like a root cleaner and accelerator of breaking down any dead root zones.

Yes the singing plants are mind blowing right ?!?

Holy shit ! 30 lbs ! Of seen some 18-20 in ground like your saying but not 30, just wow !

Small world man, I lived in the redwood valley for years, perhaps we’ve had beers at Vic’s or the forest club haha, coyote valley ?

I was off road B but also spent a season in Mcnabb myself. Also Humboldt, Santa Cruz, and grass valley. Spent a decade in NorCal.

I did some of my own breeding but didn’t do enough of the back crossing but still had great success with a Burmese Kush x La Confidential I called Burla, it was beastly and a great yielder with a Jack herer hazy nose. Piney it’s a love hate flavor for sure.

Are you still in the 707 ?

Do you recall the 30 lb strain ? Good lord 10 years ago that was a 90,000 dollar plant depending on your market. FML 😂

I will say out of 25 I always had one meh runt sickly gal?

Gsc I see wow 😮

It was 2012/13 somewhere in Redwood Valley, the strain was girls scout cookies, I think you missed that part when you saw 30 elbows O.o, I didn't frequent any bars there but I would hang out at the lake, camp and mostly chill at the house. I lived in Ukiah for about 2 years, came in on a greyhound with a bit of cash and didn't know anyone and left on a yzf1000 in '14 and made a few friends, but I'd definitely love to go back there.

Yeah that was a lot, I think he was selling them for 2-2.2 k a p.

I remember I bought my first p of some lemon something for 250 bucks from a Mexican at the park in town where they usually have the Farmers Market. I wanted to do cartwheels lol, it wasn't super fire but my buddies out east were loving it. Last year there I lived in the hills / McNabb.

I didn't travel far from there but very chill place, beautiful weather, probably the best climate to grow plants in, had a nice veggies garden in town one summer, the squashes were bigger than my forearm, they got some kind of enzymes, or "bugs" that would break down the food for the plants, ahh, can almost feel the word on the tip of my tongue, I'm pretty sure it was some micro organism. Anyway I'll think of the name (nematodes? Not sure)

Yeah those singing plants are something else, definitely "we are one" type of thing.

Yeah, those things were the biggest things I'd ever seen, I remember one branch went limp in late June because of fungus at the roots (pretty sure, the leafs were droopy and the weight snapped it as well, but I don't think he wanted to even consider fungus lol) and that branch was one of the first/primary ones and about 6-7 feet long and already had about 2 pounds of bud on it. He was spending a fortune feeding them, literally going bankrupt putting everything into buying those huge 10? gallon or so GH nutes, and he had a light dep on top, never understood how he could be broke (still owes me a couple lb lol).

I have a few theories on how someone could stay broke but I’m not gonna judge or speculate 😂 Getting paid in full or whatever was never easy in the ganja game !

Looks like you made it work out though. Buddies back east 😉 I dig what you’re planting 😆

Sounds like you were doing some compost tea type of thing with beneficial microbes, good bacteria and/or fungus fed with molasses or yucca any good simple sugars. Nematodes are worms do maybe worm shit for nitrogen anyway I miss growing and smoking dope. Sigh 😔

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One of my friends was a grower for 25 years, you might know them, Keith and Jessica, they had a baby, Waverly, anyway, one of his friends has a company, 3d Organics, and he gave us some micro organisms, basically it was some dark "water" that I would keep topping off in a 5 gal bucket, I think that's why the garden did so well, after all the soil was just lawn before and not dark at all, but I'd pour a bit of that hummus looking water before watering them and never fed the plants anything, I'm pretty sure there was some "food" with them also but not anything substantial that the plants would have been able to consume. The tomatoes were about 8 feet tall in like 1 month, I put them in around late April, nursery starts, by the end of June we were getting tomatoes and the vines were probably 9 feet, same for squash and corn, grew fast and huge. Both of them, Keith and his friend went to the Occidental College down by Santa Rosa, he turned me onto permaculture and biodynamics, Ralph Steiner and Bill Mulligan and I told him about Natural Farming Fukuoka. Keith was the coolest dude I meet there, very chill, wouldn't even accept my cash before he got me the product, and I'd try to pay him a good 10%-20% more but he would refuse it, and all because he had the strains, from what I understand he had a friend smuggle them in her cooch from AmDam back in the 90's and he basically has about 600ish different crosses that he made, not the biggest plants but the dopest. I was chilling with them at trimming time and they were paying a woman to do a p for 200 bucks, I have never seen such a thing. The buds looked like "coral", I mean they were beyond spectacular, she would put the fiskers all the way against the steem and get the leaf, the tiniest leaf, without messing up the bud out of all the buds, big and popcorn. I could probably look for some pics of bud, but I don't think anyone could compare. You seem to be doing at least the growing now, and over there you could toke with anyone, as everyone smokes, or you're not in RV anymore?

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