I hope that our interaction is not the spark for this fire lol. Not to raise a point from the last convo we had but here is where someone like Shapiro or Glenn Beck stands out. You see their arguments are about solutions and even if they fall on the other side of the aisle they are looking for the best answer not someone to burn. If you want to see that logic look at all the impeachment pushing by late night comedians that people think are not bias.
The argument made by a true conservative voice about your example is not that social programs should not exist but that the government is a terrible handler of these programs. Thwy become corrupted and inefficient and then never get fixed hurting those that they say they help.
A key example of this is Social security. Prior to its implementation more people thought about retirement and taking care of others including donating to charity. After there is a severe shift in thinking someone else will do it. You see if private organizations do these things then they have more impact and actually make it to those that need it and yes like AA there is an expectation of personal responsibility which there should be.
When I help people or do something for someone I.am often asked why. I say because it's the right thing and it's what we are supposed to do. The notion that a large central agency knows what is best for you is simply wrong and after seeing what generational welfare looks like and how people plan to get knocked up for.more benefits I am sorry it's plain wrong.
If we disagree brother than we do but I do agree that we should not look at defeating all of one view or another. Both sides must agree to reach solutions but sometimes that solution is on the other side. Thanks for sharing!!

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