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RE: Daily Discussion No. 8: Honesty and DIS-Honesty: What Goes on in People's Minds?
I've said this Many, many times in the past.
it's still true.
there are only TWO kinds of people in the WORLD
US...or THEM.
THEM are subhuman
NO rules of honesty or integrity apply to them
they are prey.
it all depends on how 'extendable' your monkeysphere is.
it might have something to do with empathy
or narcissm.
or something.
throw in the 4% of sociopaths and narcissists into the equation, and we have it!
Until 'we' see these people this as a 'thing', we will forever be allowing the wankers to make things bad for the rest of us.
I also put it into 2 categories - wankers an' nice people.
I suppose yes and no... depends on whether your monkeysphere is limited to just your personal web of trust or it includes "people you know and deal with" on a regular basis.
Even people close to us sometimes engage in dodgy behavior.
If somebody steals... is it mitigated by the fact that it was "Fred" from across the street rather than a "them?"
Isn't stealing just stealing?
nope...stealing is not JUST stealing.
how come the FED owns a third of your state?
is that stealing?
'if the fed can..what can others not?
you obviously think of 'fred' as US
does fred think of you the same way?
And that's where the whole monkeysphere approach starts to get a little dodgy for me... who's "in" and who's not? And who defines what "in" and "out" looks like?
I do wrap up the broken glass even though I have NO idea who might handle it (or not) after it goes in the trash. I don't pour old solvent into the creek because someone might be fishing downstream and get poisoned... but both the garbage man and possible fisherman (or kids swimming) are "its" to me.
The ideology looks good to me, but the functional application in our world seems a bit tricky.
You misunderstand.
It's not an ideology...it's the fundamental hardwiring in our brains.
EVERYONE is like that...it's the basic foundation
SOME OF us...you for example...HAVE an ideology built UPON that foundation.
You've modified it to suite your own principles.
Not everyone has done that.
Ah... makes more sense now.
Sometimes I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed...
Perhaps religious people call it 'original sin'

or some such.. I don't buy that.
I yam what I yam
I don't accept their guilt trip.