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"It will just leave you alone" ... For the time being...

It's an automatic bot that calculates how much a person self-votes vs how much they vote for others. Voting for others will stop it. It's not my bot but that's how it works.

I know, i was just trying to say that @sadkitten algo works on a self vote percentage of 85%? at the moment, after it has got rid of all those people from Steemit, it will no doubt reduce to perhaps say 80%.. then 75% ... then... 70%... then 5%?

Were does it stop? how much damage do they cause first?

Something like that. I can't see it rationally going under 50% at the very least since that'll beat the point. There are better ways for it to act. For example, if it instead finds all those people who upvote others' posts at 0.05% and then their own comments in them for 100%.

Yeah good point re: 50% I did a little research and have changed my mind, I now think that they will probably not attack people under 85% due to a well known whale that sits at this level of self votes.

It would be self harming in the extreme to attack him.

We have down voted @haejin before actually, you can verify that for yourself.

i was just trying to say that @sadkitten algo works on a self vote percentage of 85%?

That's not correct. It will maximally down vote with 85% votes. The criteria for being identified as a high self voter are frequently self voting yourself during the previous week and not voting for others very much or at relatively much lower strength.

It's unlikely it will need to be stopped any time soon but we're refining the algorithm as we go. Recently I added greater strength to the mitigating factor of outgoing votes so a nice percentage outgoing should make you invisible to sadkitten.

Also not that, as I have said many times, SteeemReports.com is not accurate and not a good yardstick for knowing yourself votes.

A vote, any vote should come freely and from the heart and not forced under the point of a gun, trying to force people to vote on something when they does not wish to is wrong and it forced by and only done by control freaks and look up the definition of control freak it fits the sadkitten bot.

Down votes are not violence. No one is forced to do anything, your metaphors are all over the place. We vote against the highest self voters, and we don't even fully counter further self votes, we only down vote to 85%.

Everyone is free to vote as you say, recognize that works both ways.

con·trol freak
ALERT TO ALL now to the definition and please take the time to look them up and you will find them also to all you will very quickly understand and realize that the definitions fit perfectly the @sadkitten and the one who made it, and that is very sad to all us on steem, with all the control freaks on here , steem and steemit has no where to go but down to the trash can as trash , so sell all of your steem and get out as fast as possible and run run as far away as you can

con·trol freak noun informal
a person who feels an obsessive need to exercise control over themselves and others and to take command of any situation.

Psychopath:

A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse.

Psychopaths tend to lack normal human emotions such as guilt. They are also often highly intelligent and skilled at manipulating others.

"con-troll" is what I got out of that, which is actually pretty interesting.

It's not right to say sell sell sell. This is a relatively new decentralized concept with a whole bunch of different people with different ideas and very little guidance from any one entity. We just need to find ways for different approaches to work together.

as for control freak the definitions fits and as long as those types of bots are running around on steem downvoting on auto and or doing other wrong acts then steem will go down as people will revolt and leave and steem will be a very sad joke that no one wants any part of,

It's just one of those realities of decentralization. There's no one to revolt against, which is part of the issue. There's no centralization here. The more dialogue we establish between everyone the better for the ecosystem.

YES there is something as for the revolt if people make a choice to not to vote and not to post and not to have anything to do with steem then that is a revolt against it, and if there is no one to buy steem then the price goes in to the toilet, the bots have got to be done away with they are making people loose any hope that they may have in steem that is the point

So what would you say would re-establish your faith in Steem?

IF all the bots that vote up and vote down where to be removed from steem then that would GREATLY re-establish every persons faith in steem for it will remove those who try to game the system and those that wish to use censorship against others

also you should read my last post i just made to steem

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@guiltyparties

He can say what he likes, he has been unfairly attacked be two different law bots for what I suspect to be his political viewpoint.

Not one freedom loving person on here has stood up for him.

He has been adding fairly decent content and contributing to steemit for a long time by producing content and investing in steem.

After viewing some of his videos they are not spam & are actually very timely topics.

He has been unfairly attacked.

I'm not telling him what he can't say, I'm merely suggesting that mutual understanding is the future of Steem. If anyone is ever attacked by random bots or even random accounts they should feel free to reach out for help with a resolution. Myself and other long-term users are here to help where possible.

Ok fair enough, that's good to know.

[...] he has been unfairly attacked be two different law bots for what I suspect to be his political viewpoint.

I can only speak for @sadkitten but it is based purely on self voting behavior, the bot doesn't read the content and doesn't privilege any account over any other. Period.

False .... there are 3 other bots or people following your downvote lead.

I obviously can't control what other bots do, my statement is true. Which ones are you talking about? Maybe I can reach out to them.

@welcoming and @zer0hedge.... but maybe they are humans? I cant tell anymore who is a robot or just an evil human.

Those accounts are part of our bot. They run on the same algorithm.

a vote should come freely and from the heart and NOT FROM THE POINT OF A GUN BEING FORCED TO VOTE which is what the control freak @sadkitten tries to force people to do so